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AI Challenge Forums Falls 2011, sponsored by Google 2011-12-21T23:16:50+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/feed.php?f=21&t=2178 2011-12-21T23:16:50+00:00 2011-12-21T23:16:50+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13758#p13758 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by McLeopold — Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:16 pm


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2011-12-21T18:42:59+00:00 2011-12-21T18:42:59+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13722#p13722 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by cabbage — Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:42 pm


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2011-12-20T20:24:09+00:00 2011-12-20T20:24:09+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13616#p13616 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by Parasprites — Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:24 pm


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2011-12-20T16:07:15+00:00 2011-12-20T16:07:15+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13595#p13595 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by Scryer — Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:07 pm


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2011-12-20T10:34:06+00:00 2011-12-20T10:34:06+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13574#p13574 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> As other programmers I always think like : 'how to automatically determine starter packages bots and exclude them?'

But! Before submission end automatic detection was the obligatory demand as count of submission to check if it's starter bot was not limited.
But now organizers can spent not so much time to really quick shorten the bots queue by manual starter bots removing. Understand it sounds very abnormal for us, but I have tried to find starter packages bots, and it seems that I can find at least 5 of them per minute (includes time to wait replays and pages loading).

So it is possible to determine 300 bots per hour. As some of these bots are played much more than mo high-ranked bots, may be several hours of someone from organizers can speed up the whole queue significantly.

I understand all minuses of manual detecting approach but now it seems there are no other approaches except "to wait 1-2 days when ranks get stabilized and apply cutoff".

I'm sure other players will be glad to help with finding such bots - so you even could not to find them yourselves but only check bots found and remove them.

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2011-12-20T08:14:41+00:00 2011-12-20T08:14:41+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13562#p13562 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]>
Downloading a starter bot and then submitting it without changing a single line of code is a waste of time and resources, and I can see a lot of matches between such bots.

This would not be so bad if so many of these identical bots were repeatedly matched to play off against eachother. The matcher appears to erroneously conclude "these bots are so close in skill level I had better keep scheduling more games until some differences emerge". The fact is that due to map symmetry, identical bots all playing on any map will always end in a draw.

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2011-12-20T07:39:16+00:00 2011-12-20T07:39:16+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13558#p13558 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by Scryer — Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:39 am


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2011-12-20T07:12:02+00:00 2011-12-20T07:12:02+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13554#p13554 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by Zaph — Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:12 am


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2011-12-20T05:16:54+00:00 2011-12-20T05:16:54+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13539#p13539 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by Scryer — Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:16 am


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2011-12-20T03:54:24+00:00 2011-12-20T03:54:24+00:00 http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?t=2178&p=13528#p13528 <![CDATA[Re: Future Contests: Detect and Deactivate Starter Bots]]> Statistics: Posted by Zaph — Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:54 am


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