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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby JG.WAS » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:19 am

another Topic in the forum already discussed this problem (time-out on the first round), and a solution was proposed, hoping it can resolve the problem:


erdman wrote:(1) I believe that changing the timing metric from wall-clock time to CPU time will make this issue go away. If true, this seems the easiest resolution.
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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby BenJackson » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:29 am

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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby Zedenstein » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:27 am

True, but in lieu of a better solution so close to the actual competition, I think we would all agree that it would be better to lose a turn here and there than to simply get kicked out of the game on timeouts.
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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby Janzert » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:55 am

As mentioned already elsewhere but apparently ignored, at most 2-3% of games that a player timeouts are the result of server problems. Since this is the rate that top 10 bots keep there time outs down to. In fact Xathis using Java (a language that has been reported as having time out issues) has yet to timeout and Fluxid using Python3 (certainly not a fast language) has 1 timeout in over 400 games.

At this point there are no plans to change either the timing method or penalty for timing out for this contest.
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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby Frantic » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:49 pm

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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby Frantic » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:54 pm

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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby codetiger » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:36 am

If there is no penalty for timeouts, won't they timeout intensionally to avoid game failures?

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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby swordfishBob » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:22 am

Thinking for next time.. perhaps have a more generous absolute limit (e.g. 3 seconds), but also a moving-average limit (e.g. 1 second, or 500ms, across the last 3 turns). This would help those subject to unpredictable garbage collection, as well as some server delays.
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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby Frantic » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:45 am

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Re: remove penalty for timeouts

Postby swordfishBob » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:38 am

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