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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby Accoun » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:31 am

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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby antimatroid » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:38 am

The winner should only change for these random maps if their old bot was specifically geared towards the non exhaustive example maps. Which bocsimacko has already stated they aren't. There really shouldn't be any change to rankings for anyone that didn't make their own assumptions, and if you did that, you did so at your own risk.
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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby dimkadimon » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:19 am

Can the new generator generate old maps? The last 10 or so games I haven't seen the old maps at all...

The reason I am asking is the following. If a bot wins with the new maps then how do we know that it would have done well with the old maps too? After all this is an AI contest and we want to make bots that are general and not limited to certain maps. ;)
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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby antimatroid » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:22 am

The set of maps the old generator could generate should be a subset of the ones the new generator could, with the exception of maps where players can't take at least one neutral etc.
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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby dimkadimon » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:25 am

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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby antimatroid » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:43 am

Almost, not quite, the chance of line and point symmetry is 50% each, but point symmetric maps can now have 2 or 4 extra neutrals starting at an equal distance from both players.

So in reality, 1/6th of new maps should be exactly the same as the old generator would have made, 1/2 of them should be pretty damn close.

Edit: oh, and you aren't guaranteed 23 planets, so not even 1/6th are exactly like them.
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Re: A decision has been made on the official map generator

Postby RebelXT » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:41 am

even though i find some of the new maps interesting, please keep existing map generator. it's too late to be making any changes with only two weeks to go...
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