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Re: Number of turns?

Postby Fritzlein » Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:51 am

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Re: Number of turns?

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Re: Number of turns?

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Re: Number of turns?

Postby McLeopold » Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:44 pm

Fritzlein: great analysis on the tcp server. I only wish we could easily look at that type of data on the official one. I think over time we will need to up it to 250-300.

You are right about the server resource issue. It is much better to play more games the play all games longer. I'd like to see some type of game length extension for only those that should be extended.

I think maybe a better idea than growth and num of ships may be to allow games to be played x number of turns past the last neutral planet takeover. If a typical map (for this competition) is 24 planets, we could probably set it at 25-50 turns and allow for dumb bots to be cut off and tough stalemate positions with neutrals left to be allowed to go longer. I think this would be easy to program for people who like the turn limits and want that to be part of the strategy.
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Re: Number of turns?

Postby McLeopold » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:37 pm

http://pastebin.com/RRUxVcm2

deepblue vs McLeopold at 281 turns on the tcp server a few days ago. deepblue would have won at 200, I was able to turn it around. Stop the game at 200 and see if my position looks impossible.
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Re: Number of turns?

Postby adumlah » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:25 pm

here's a game from this morning where the sides went 40 turns without a takeover:

http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=4608737

things went a bit crazy after that, though!

i still think the answer is longer turns. as the quality of the bots improves, more games will take longer to decide.

what we really need is more servers running more games. i wish the admins would address their plans in this area. if it's a question of resources, i'm sure people would kick in a few dollars to run some EC2 instances for the duration of the challenge.
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Re: Number of turns?

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Re: Number of turns?

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Re: Number of turns?

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Re: Number of turns?

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